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    Default Re: My weekend full of knockoffs!!

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    I agree with you, lilstrett, and prefer the tone of your post, as it's not so judgmental. I read all the posts at once, so I was a bit struck by something. I mean no offense, but I can't help to find it ironic that people who care so much about designer clothes, shoes, handbags, sunglasses, etc., that they are willing to pay thousands of dollars for a bag, don't get why people who can't afford it choose to get cheap fakes. If you judge people by the bag they carry, why are you surprised when they judge you for the bag you carry? What is so shocking about them getting fakes as an attempt to get the next best thing and fit in with those who can afford better? We cannot impose our ways on others, just as they can't impose their ways on us. You get upset when someone questions your motive for buying such outrageously expensive bags, yet you turn around and question their motives for not doing the same. You think they're wrong; they think you're wrong. Who has a greater right to be right? No one. I've never owned a fake bag, and I report sellers of fake bags whenever I run into them, but I just don't see the need to put other people down for buying cheap imitations, especially if you don't want others to put you down for spending so much on a bag. Just an observation.
    I totally agree! This is exactly how I feel.
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    Default Re: My weekend full of knockoffs!!

    Quote Originally Posted by gizmo View Post
    I agree with you, lilstrett, and prefer the tone of your post, as it's not so judgmental. I read all the posts at once, so I was a bit struck by something. I mean no offense, but I can't help to find it ironic that people who care so much about designer clothes, shoes, handbags, sunglasses, etc., that they are willing to pay thousands of dollars for a bag, don't get why people who can't afford it choose to get cheap fakes. If you judge people by the bag they carry, why are you surprised when they judge you for the bag you carry? What is so shocking about them getting fakes as an attempt to get the next best thing and fit in with those who can afford better? We cannot impose our ways on others, just as they can't impose their ways on us. You get upset when someone questions your motive for buying such outrageously expensive bags, yet you turn around and question their motives for not doing the same. You think they're wrong; they think you're wrong. Who has a greater right to be right? No one. I've never owned a fake bag, and I report sellers of fake bags whenever I run into them, but I just don't see the need to put other people down for buying cheap imitations, especially if you don't want others to put you down for spending so much on a bag. Just an observation.
    I guess the difference to me is that when I spend 500 dollars or 5000 dollars on a real bag, I am not suppoting terrorism and I know a 8 year old girl in a sweat shop somewhere didn't get paid 10 cents an hour so I could look like I am trying to fit in with high society. Just an observation

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    Default Re: My weekend full of knockoffs!!

    ^ Hi KANMP! I was expecting someone to say that sooner than later. I'm not disagreeing, but I'm also not convinced. Most, if not all, of the comments linking fake handbags to terrorism and child labor can be traced back to a single source: Timothy Phillips "Knockoff" book. Phillips is smart, but he's not impartial. I'm not saying there's no connection. I'm just not comfortable claiming that "fake bags fund terrorism and child labor" when I don't know that for a fact, when I couldn't back that statement. I'm not in a position to have direct experience with terrorism and child labor, and I have yet to study the subject in depth and do the necessary research--which includes reading from many reputable sources. Again, I'm not disagreeing. I've just never been one to repeat something I heard about a controversial matter without looking into it myself. Keep in mind also that when buying designer handbags you don't always know who and what you're supporting. What do you think they--the companies and/or the individuals on top--do with the profit they make from selling handbags that cost $20 to make at $2,000? Are you sure they have no ties to terrorists or political extortion of any kind? Do you know for a fact that there's no corruption in these companies? Are you sure they value their workers and take good care of them rather than abuse them? Child labor and terrorism probably are the worst possible offense, but I believe there's a lot of evil happening under our noses everyday, and we support it. That's just my opinion. I understand that many here will disagree, and that's totally OK.

    PS: I still oppose fakes! I'd like to choke thieves who steal someone else's design, creativity, intellectual property, and profit from it. I especially whould enjoy choking the ones who claim to be selling the real thing. That's so low. And if, indeed, they have tight connections to terrorism and child labor, well, that's way lower.
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    I agree!!

    Finally someone else on here understand what I've been trying to say about this whole thing... except when I say it, it's some big issue
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    Default Re: My weekend full of knockoffs!!

    Quote Originally Posted by gizmo View Post
    ^ Hi KANMP! I was expecting someone to say that sooner than later. I'm not disagreeing, but I'm also not convinced. Most, if not all, of the comments linking fake handbags to terrorism and child labor can be traced back to a single source: Timothy Phillips "Knockoff" book. Phillips is smart, but he's not impartial. I'm not saying there's no connection. I'm just not comfortable claiming that "fake bags fund terrorism and child labor" when I don't know that for a fact, when I couldn't back that statement. I'm not in a position to have direct experience with terrorism and child labor, and I have yet to study the subject in depth and do the necessary research--which includes reading from many reputable sources. Again, I'm not disagreeing. I've just never been one to repeat something I heard about a controversial matter without looking into it myself. Keep in mind also that when buying designer handbags you don't always know who and what you're supporting. What do you think they--the companies and/or the individuals on top--do with the profit they make from selling handbags that cost $20 to make at $2,000? Are you sure they have no ties to terrorists or political extortion of any kind? Do you know for a fact that there's no corruption in these companies? Are you sure they value their workers and take good care of them rather than abuse them? Child labor and terrorism probably are the worst possible offense, but I believe there's a lot of evil happening under our noses everyday, and we support it. That's just my opinion. I understand that many here will disagree, and that's totally OK.

    PS: I still oppose fakes! I'd like to choke thieves who steal someone else's design, creativity, intellectual property, and profit from it. I especially whould enjoy choking the ones who claim to be selling the real thing. That's so low. And if, indeed, they have tight connections to terrorism and child labor, well, that's way lower.

    I guess you are right about the terrorism comment and child labor. I should research before I quote. But it seems you and I can totally agree on one thing that we know is a fact: Fakes are someone stealing someone else's idea and it is ILLEGAL! Therefore, if for no other reason, I can JUDGE someone who buys them, and not expect the same judgment in return for spending a lot of money on a real bag. It is not illegal for me to spend outrageous amounts of money on a bag if I want...it is illegal to buy a fake. I know there are peolple who carry fakes who don't know they are fake, so you can't blame them. But for someone who knowingly buys ar sells fakes...I will judge and I don't see why that is wrong of me. It is againdt the law.

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    Default Re: My weekend full of knockoffs!!

    I am closing this thread because I don't want it to cause problems...:rolleyes:

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