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    Question Coach References?

    Hi all,

    I'm new to the forum, but an old lover of Coach. My grandmother gave me 2 of her old ones in the late 80's. They were both made in NYC. I love them and have worn them to death, as you can see. I've been personally carrying these bags since 88 and she had had them for 7 or so years before that. They wear like iron.

    Anyway, I would love to know what resources people are using to figure out if bags are fakes or not. I'm starting to collect vintage ones from ebay and any help would be appreciated.

    The breakdown on serial numbers by Margo was very informative! Thanks for that.

    Knitty Lynn

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    Um here are the picts! Hit the 'post' button too quick.







    Thanks for all the help in advance.

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    Have a look at the coach section see what you find or search for something about vintage coach bags, or google it... I usually do when I'm trying to research about something about bags. I love coach too but am not too familiar with vintage ones... there's a coach drilldown where you can write the number from the coach creed after the dash, but IDK if it will show vintage bags as it doesn't show outlet ones, anyhow, here is the link...

    http://www.coach.com/assets/product_...wn1/247_d1.jpg

    replace the number before the underscore with the last digits after the dash from the coach creed.HTH!

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    Ebay seller Woopretty used to have a vintage Coach reference guide. But for some reason it was taken down. I was kinda sad because it actually pictured all of the vintage styles. JHM is right about the drilldown. It won't show vintage styles.

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    Thanks so much!

    We should poke Coach to make a book.

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    I am also a lover of vintage Coach and have a well-loved NYC purse myself. The strap is basically single layer and has definately seen better days but the bag itself has lots of years left! Margo's article made me feel much more confident with buying vintage, but you do have to be cautious when buying from a photo. I adore vintage leather, but am particular about the amount of wear...don't want it to look worn-out to begin with! When I received the NYC bag I decided to use the Coach leather conditioner on it before carrying it...that's when I found out it had been polished. (I keep my shoes polished, but don't want to carry a bag that's going to rub color off on my clothes! ) I still love the bag, but it definately showed more wear without the polish. So now I ask before buying.

    I would love to locate a reference guide as well and can't believe there isn't one out there! I think most people are faking the newer bags and it's easier with the fabric vs. leather, so we're safer with vintage. I've also started making regular checks of some of the consignment shops - it's nice to be able to see what I'm getting up front! Also, have had luck with Craigslist...picked up a pretty brown leather for $40 yesterday. It looked like it had never been carried; even the hangtag looked good (and she threw in the matching cosmetic case for free)! A society matron cleaning out her closet...my kind of deal! I live in Jacksonville where they do all the Coach repair work...I'm going to check with them and see if there is some kind of guide within the Coach system that can be accessed. Probably not, but it's worth a shot...I'll let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnittyLynn View Post
    Um here are the picts! Hit the 'post' button too quick.







    Thanks for all the help in advance.
    Hi I have a Vintage Coach Bag like the first photo Except mine is Older. I say that because there is NO Coach Creed... Only a little Metal Plate tha says "COACH" I thought at first it was a BiG Fake and I tossed it in my closet. I mean literally TOSSED!! Imagine my Horror when I found out how Very Authentic and Old it is!!! I am told it is called a Coach Couriour (Spelling) Pouch. Any one want to offer me any more Info!! Id apprciate any help... Thanks Much ~Maz!

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    Hi I have a Vintage Coach Bag like the first photo Except mine is Older. I say that because there is NO Coach Creed... Only a little Metal Plate tha says "COACH" I thought at first it was a BiG Fake and I tossed it in my closet. I mean literally TOSSED!! Imagine my Horror when I found out how Very Authentic and Old it is!!! I am told it is called a Coach Couriour (Spelling) Pouch. Any one want to offer me any more Info!! Id apprciate any help... Thanks Much ~Maz

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    I posted a link a couple of days ago, but my post is gone. In any event, my reference guide is back up. It does not have the black bag you posted on this thread, but still it has some stuff :)
    It is in my ebay about me page - woopretty

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    KnittyLynn - The brown bag you posted. It gets tricky, because you really have to know when the bag was purchased to help determine fake or authentic.

    At first glance, my thought is fake based on the font style of the word "Coach", the fact that Leatherware is stamped under it, the serial stamp is not consistant with mid 90's serial #'s, and the made in New York City (they were not made there after a certain point)

    "Leatherware" was stamped under the Coach logo on OLD bags, but it was not done so later. Fake ones from Korea however did this, along with the New York City stamp.

    Serial numbers changed in the 90's - the first three represented the date and location made, the last four were the style number. Bags older than that did not have the same system. So a serial number that does not contain the style number could mean it's REALLY old, or it's fake. Like I said, tricky.

    The flap of the bag, if you lift it up and the other side has leather sewn over the turn-lock hardware, then it is most definitely fake....if you are able to see the turn-lock hardware on the flip side then it passes that test at least and it could be an authentic one that dates back to the 80's.

    Hope that helps :) I used to work for Coach, a loooooong time ago.
    Last edited by woopretty; September 26th, 2008 at 10:30 AM. Reason: typo

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    That second one is amazing - beautiful and the NYC makes it stand out (in my mind).

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    I have your second bag at home, in black, and I bought it myself in the 80s (shows you how old I am!!). I know it's authentic, because I bought it directly from Coach in Boston (or it might have been DC). I will check the serial number and get back to you.

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    I had a good look at my black city bag from the late 80s (or early 90s), and though the bag body is the same shape/size as yours, my strap is an adjustable buckle strap attached to the body with rather squared off brass buckles. Style #9790, so it's not the same bag. Sorry I can't help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnittyLynn View Post
    Thanks so much!

    We should poke Coach to make a book.
    Coach should make a book!

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    Default Re: Coach References?

    The second bag might be a Pocket Purse.

    Neither one will show up on the drilldown since they're both well over 20 years old. They're completely genuine too, BTW.

    I'd suggest giving them several conditionings with either Lexol Conditioner or Apple Leather conditioner, it will make a big difference. You can also wash them, someone posted instructions a while back at the Ebay Shoes and Purses forum.

    WooPretty, I'm glad your page is back, it was a nice reference for the leather bags from the late 90s.

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